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Crowdsourcing: A Definition

  • I like to use two definitions for crowdsourcing:

    The White Paper Version: Crowdsourcing is the act of taking a job traditionally performed by a designated agent (usually an employee) and outsourcing it to an undefined, generally large group of people in the form of an open call.

    The Soundbyte Version: The application of Open Source principles to fields outside of software.

The Rise of Crowdsourcing

  • Read the original article about crowdsourcing, published in the June, 2006 issue of Wired Magazine.
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April 29, 2008

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Alan Booker

Another great read Jeff.

Your use of “social capital” is so important and yet not often enough alluded to by social commentators.

A few quibbles!

“The company organized labor into a paid workforce, and the community became the social space in which we rested from work—a respite from economic production and competition, engaging instead in religious, philanthropic or purely social activities.”

For the majority of working class people that statement might sound a tad simplistic or even outdated. Economics, over the past decade, have changed the clarity of the work, free time line and most certainly time to wallow is not a commodity that exists in my strong middle class neighborhood. In the Shirky link I posted he talks about cognitive surplus as a driving force but he equates changed life habits as the point of entry. I wonder if the state of being first in importance you mention also originates in non traditional time slots of activity rather than traditional free time from a work schedule.

The jump from this sentence, “More recently, new types of communities have materialized that are both local and wired at the same time,” to the next chapter was a bit of a radical jump. Inwardly I was waiting for an example or two about the more recent new types of communities. I felt like I was left in the lurch. Are you referring to communities newer than the sailing enthusiasts, or as yet undefined communities?

“One of the common criticisms levied against Gannett is that it’s crowdsourcing in order to cut staff, but this misses the point entirely.” Your focus is upon the ability of Gannett to expand makes you sound like the journalist you are or the employer. “There’s a trade-off for this autonomy.”

You might have touched upon this question more deeply somewhere else in the book.

Are you putting any focus on the darker sides of the trends you discuss in the book? The loss of Medical benefits and pensions, the inability of workers to unionize, just to mention the most obvious, are certainly by-products.

These concerns have become overriding for the average worker and presumably many of The Billion. More recent economic policies are driving the traditional employee, employer relationship into the ground and the imperatives once held sacred in those relationships have been cast to the wind.

The resulting loss of humanity resulting from such damaged relationships might indeed be another factor in a younger generations desire to move into a crowd that seeks freedom from a dehumanizing process.


Unclear intention for this sentence, “paid employees can be told what to do, online communities do what they want, but it’s often a price well worth paying.” Are they paying the price of not getting paid because they are doing what they want there fore its well worth it?

“have managed to convert the mundane warp and weave of community interaction into a commercial good.” Personal comment here, could it be warp and weft? Can the fabric of society ever be called mundane?

Well Jeff that’s my attempt to be a sheep leading the shepherd. Here’s hoping there is no precipice anywhere close.

Warm regards, Alan

Roshan2008D@gmail.com

I link posted he talks about cognitive surplus as a driving force but he equates changed life habits as the point of entry.

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Roshan


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Monica Hamburg

I believe my comment was blocked by the spam filters (I am obsessive about posting links). If you don't encounter it, please let me know & I will re-post.

- Monica Hamburg
http://www.monicahamburg.wordpress.com

Monica Hamburg

Hi Jeff,

I am reposting with fewer links. (Any posts referenced herein are now bookmarked on Del.icio.us:
http://del.icio.us/mhamburg/rejhch5 )

Much great information here. Thanks.

Possible technical error: Paragraph 14 which begins “The internet facilitated” has a line which includes the comment “firm or company or even loose affiliation”. I think it needs an article there, e.g. “or even a/the loose affiliation”.

The line “if means of production and distribution are now within the grasp of the individual” assumes that this is generally the case. It is not, not even in crowdsourcing. This statement is too dogmatic - something like “… production and distribution being more accessible” is more truthful.

Also, while it is important to acknowledge the general lack of a hierarchical structure in Crowdsourcing, Crowdsourcing is not operated by crowds - and some argue that without leadership, the entire structure isn’t possible. Assignment Zero needed editors, AskSpace needed direction/directors, and all sites require moderation in one form or another. (Rob May emphasizes the necessity of leadership in this excellent post on Business Pundit).

I would also agree with Alan (that tends to happen) that our society has very, very little spare time. I would argue that with stronger workplaces demands (in terms of time and output), accessibility (via cell phones, internet etc.) and many parent’s schedules of shuttling their children from after-school/weekend sports/clubs etc., time has never been a more scarce commodity.

I was saddened, however, by your simply dismissing the peanuts Retina Carter is being paid as “It’s not a bad trade-off”. Yes, it most certainly is. Your words may be coming back to haunt you here... You have stated re: Crowdsourcing that “the model does contain the potential for inequity (a safer word, perhaps, than exploitation)”.

The example you provide about Cincymoms could not be a more perfect example of this statement.

Yes, Carter is a willing participant but her compensation is clearly not being valued. “In just over two months, the site brought in $275,000—$75,000 more than it was projected to earn in its entire first year of operation.” And Ms. Carter received around $215 dollars for her essential work during that period...

If that isn’t inequity – I don’t know what is.

I wax on about crowdsourcing and exploitation in part 4 of my One Degree article and on my blog – here is the gist of it:

“When claims of exploitation are brought up with regards to Crowdsourcing (and they are, frequently) often the counter argument is that because people willingly participate, there is no mistreatment. While “exploitation” is not exactly the word I would use, it is wrong to assume that because people contribute out of passion rather than necessity, this logically translates into balance and equity. People (especially in artistic fields) are expected to take unpaid work to establish themselves, to gain exposure etc. – and Web 2.0 has by no means ‘started the fire’, it can just make it spread more quickly and exponentially. For any rate that is offered, there will be takers. A person who, for instance, wants to start work again after having children, or needs a break from a uncreative job may jump at the chance to write a blurb or do a Mechanical Turk Task. Many agree to accept low rates because there comes a time where the rate (free or nearly free) becomes the standard. And there comes a point where so many people are offering their work for free that the mindset for buyers becomes: “well, why would we bother to pay more if we don’t have to”. Make no mistake that people who give into this system and offer their services for little in return are agreeing with it. They in are merely reflecting the low value placed on what they do."

Your point about communities and their evolution is a good one and one that Harold Rheingold goes into in-depth at his TED talk. Very interesting - especially his statement re big companies sharing: “They are doing this because they are learning that a certain kind of sharing is their self-interest.”

And I was excited about your discussion about the loss of communities, something that I addressed in a post on my blog awhile back, though with a less economic focus (“Moreover, on a large scale, social networking truly fulfils the role that our old (read: non-virtual) communities used to prove. This has sorely been lacking for most of us. Now we are only several connections away from others, only a few friends away from a new friend. Here we offer assistance to each other and ask for help.”)

Re: your “people want to have a voice”. Very true, but I think that the general intention is even more exaggerated than that: People want to be famous, or at least recognized for their expertise (e.g. Wikipedia, business blogs), personality (personal blogs) or contribution. The internet gives them that platform, and, yes, allows them to have a voice.

Re: the sewer system investigation by readers for “News-Press”. The large response could be attributed additionally to the fact that the readers had a vested interest in uncovering the scandal – it wasn’t simply a matter of everyone wanting to play detective.
And on a related note, Wikileaks is also a good example of society beginning to police via Crowdsourcing (though I’m guessing such policing may form the basis of a later chapter of your book… )

As always, Excellent work, Jeff.

- Monica Hamburg
http://www.monicahamburg.wordpress.com

Alf Rehn

There is one thing that is missing from your attempt to deconstruct the company, namely the notion of transaction costs. Yes, the internet and the ubiquity of the personal computer has radically decreased the transaction costs in organizing e.g. text-production. But they haven't eradicated them. It is still easier to own things such as copyeditors and servers than it is to buy them piecemeal on the market. The firm is efficient in corralling things, but you seem to assume that this corralling cannot change. If e.g. the production function would indeed move to the crowd, it is possible that firms will opt to corral editors and "sifters" instead. Production (not to speak of distribution) is a tricky matter, and the corporation has been very good at finding new ways to benefit from it.

Further, you are leaving out one aspect of what firms actually do. The old tripartite image of the economy, made popular by Marx, is production-distribution-consumption. We often think that the last part is outside the firm, that consuming is a free activity. But isn't the consumer really the greatest product of the corporation? As Peter Drucker pointed out, the first order of business is "Create a client/consumer". Firms, through marketing and PR (and other mechanisms) are still preeminent in doing this well...

Patrick

As I am busy, lazy and just looking for a quick score (hoping for my 15 seconds of fame), but still have something interesting to say: here's my brief comment ;-)

What I very often see is companies trying to catch the web2.0 / community ride and building very fancy websites 'above the flow', in stead of using the already ongoing (offline) activities 'in the flow'.

Resulting in:
- fancy websites without content (they also forget that a core team should at least in the beginning actively add content),
- and with little users,
- since the site is not built around an already existing bond/experience/interest,
- but built from a technology solution driven aspect (e.g. blogs, movies, communities, etc)

cheers
Patrick


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